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  HAPPING HUNDRED FULL LICENCE CLOSED 19.10.1970
TUNSTEAD & HAPPING LICENCE REGISTER PS 11/4/1 & PS 11/4/4 (Feb 1928 to Feb 1974)
MORGANS  
STEWARD & PATTESON from 21.10.1961
WATNEY MANN  
Licensees :
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JOHN BYGRAVE
& brewer 1850
& farmer, corn miller & spirit merchant
age 30 in 1851
1846 - 1860
MASON FENN
(Wife Sarah Ann died 30th January 1860 - age 49)
1863
JOHN DURRANT 1864
Tuesday 13th September 1864 - Charged of assaulting Mary Ann Read on 5th September. Mrs. read had entered the house to get her husband home. She was ordered out and eventually pushed out by Durrant. She claimed he had kicked her. Fine of £5, or in default, two months' hard labour.
GEORGE THORNTON 1865
JOHN RUMP 1868 - 1869
SARAH LINKHORN *1871
Mrs ANN RUMP 1875
JOHN READ junior 1877 - 1883
EDWARD BOULTON SOUTHGATE
& horse breaker
1888 - 1896
Fine of £2 and 11s costs on 13th May 1890 for selling out of hours. See below.
Mrs CHARLOTTE SOUTHGATE 01.06.1897 - 1912
GEORGE W. LINCOLN 1916 - 1925
WILLIE TOWNROE
(also as Townrow)
by 1929
JOHN CLEMETSON 18.08.1930
ALFRED WILLIAM KAY 13.04.1953
KENNETH WILLIAM LYNES 10.02.1956
JAMES CUDDINGTON
02.05.1960
NORMAN GREEN 19.10.1970

On Sunday 24th April 1890, Robert Piggs was seen by Constable Chapman to enter the house at 6:50 a.m. George Neave then followed 20 minutes later.
Piggs claimed he had delivered some sticks and was rewarded with a free beer for assisting with the horses. Neave said he had come to collect his horse and cart but admitted that he had paid for a measure of gin.
On 27th April 1890, Robert Mayes was seen to enter the house at 6:40 a.m. and exit ten minutes later with a half gallon of beer.
Mayes claimed he had paid for the beer the previous day, at legal hours and only collected it in the morning as he was going fishing.

On Tuesday 13th May 1890, the case against Piggs was dismissed. Neave was fined 1s and 11s 9d costs. Mayes was fined 2s 6d and 15s costs.
Strangely, John Grimmer, who had called at the back door of the house, on a Sunday when Constable Chapman was present, was fined 2s 6d and costs of 13s for having asked for a bottle of beer, but refused service by licensee Southgate since he said he did not sell beer on Sundays.
Pleading guilty to keeping his house open during illegal hours, Southgate was fined £2 and costs of 11s.

Thanks to Chris
c1950

Offered To Let, August 1860, including a "Small & Compact Brewery"
A free Public-house where a good Wholesale and Retail Ale, Porter, and Spirit Trade had been carried on for the previous 14 years.
With large Cellar to the north side of the House, with Porter Warehouse adjoining, Counting-house, Liquor Store and every convenience for an expanding trade.
An adjoining Mansion, with 7½ Acres of Land, &c., also available.
Apply to Mr. John Bygrave, proprietor.


Morgans sales for 1960 were :-
58 barrels of beer
31 spirits. (gallons)

Closure proposed by Bullards at the First Joint Committee Meeting of Bullards and Steward & Patteson 29.05.1962 - Not agreed.
Sales reported as 58 barrels


63 barrels of draught beer plus 40 (barrels) of bottled beer, sold in the final year of trading.

Licence not renewed 08.02.1971

 

Memories collected by Chris Holderness of Rig-a-Jig-Jig for the East Anglian Traditional Musical Trust.
The CH numbers refer to Chris's Archive on eatmt.org
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From Eastern Daily Press, 2015          (CH B1-1-12b)

'As early as 1915 E J Moeran [song noter and composer] visited Winterton and collected songs from 'Old Larpin' [Sam Larner] . . A few years later Moeran helped discover another of Norfolk's great traditional singers when he recorded Harry Cox, a few years younger than Sam, singing with others at the Windmill pub at Sutton near Stalham.'

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From 'Harry Cox and his Friends' by Chris Heppa       (CH B2-1-10a onwards)

Singers known to frequent the pub c1896 - 1960: Harry Cox, Elijah Bell, Charlie Chettleborough, John 'Charger' Salmons, William 'Bullets' Miller, Walter 'Waxy' Gales, Jack 'Fruit' Riseborough.

'Harry's son-in-law, Lenny Helsdon, says, 'He [Harry} would see if Elijah Bell or 'Charger' Salmons were in the Windmill; if they weren't, he would go on and see if they were in the [Catherine] Wheel.'

In the EATMT Archive, at CH B10-35 there is a 1947 BBC programme East Anglia Sings on CD partly recorded at Sutton Windmill with 9 songs from Elijah Bell, Charlie Chettleborough, Harry Cox, Walter Gales, John Salmons and William Miller.

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From Herbert Warnes, 2006             (CH B2-2-16a)

'Well down in Sutton Windmill, I think we were probably one of the first skiffle groups! The landlord used to play a banjo and the landlady, she used to play an organ. And used to have an accordion and all that. The landlady, she used to play the big bass. That was an old tea-chest, a big tin tray, a flex and a bit of a broom handle, so you tightened it up round the handle. I tell you what, that give a real good sound . . . and she could really play that. The farmers and auctioneers used to have a shoot-around, then they'd come into the pub and want to have a dance. Used to move all the old tables back and have a tune-up. We used to be in there until two or three in the morning.'