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54 PILOT STREET NORTH END WARD FULL LICENCE CLOSED 11.11.1974
KINGS LYNN PETTY SESSION REGISTERS PS 4/3/1 to PS 4/3/4  (August 1872 to 1965)
J. MORSE to 1847
JOHN JEX ROLFE  
HOGGE & SEPPINGS  
BULLARDS  
WATNEY MANN  
Licensees :
ROBERT MIDDLETON 1847 - *1850
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JOHN WANTY SIMPSON
(John Hardy Simpson 1861 ?)
Age 44 in 1861
1859 - 1864
Fined 5s with 13s costs 21st March 1859 for having persons in the house and beer on the table at half past nine on the previous Sunday morning.
? 1865
JOHN WITT 1868 - 1869
 In court Monday 2nd August 1869, given until 4:00pm to pay the fine of £1 with 13s 6d costs for selling beer on Sunday 24th July 1869 at illegal hours. In default to serve 14 days imprisonment.
JOSHUA GORE
& shipbuilder
(Josiah Gore 1875)
Age 34 in 1871
by 1871
JOSEPH PRIEST 07.01.1878
ALFRED DRAKE 07.02.1881
JOHN LEMAN 30.07.1883
WILLIAM TEASDALE JARY 30.07.1888
JOSEPH BARKER 14.04.1890
STEPHEN THOMAS RAKE 04.01.1926
Convicted 01.04.1940 of supplying persons under 18 years of age -
Fine 10/-
Also for allowing consumption by persons under 18 years -
Fine 10/-
WILLIAM JOHN BOWMAN 06.07.1959
PETER ROBERT DAWSON 11.12.1961
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Although this was one of the pubs frequented by the North End fishermen there is no proof that Vaughan Williams noted songs here in January 1905 as has been believed in the past.  His manuscript books suggest that he visited singers in their own homes and the note opposite about the refusal of a Music Licence in February 1904 is another clue.  He may have visited however, as he often did go to pubs to find singers.

 
     


Lot No. 74 in the second day of sale by auction of the estate of the late John Morse, held 8th & 9th September 1847.
The property included:-
Parlour, Kitchen, Cellar, Store Room, & Shrimp House, 2 Bedrooms. Stable & Coal Yard adjoining the Fleet - Freehold.

Address 1881 as `Over Fisher Bridge '.

Monday 27th March 1882 - Mr. Drake applied for permission to open the house one hour earlier in the morning. The house was close to the new dock being constructed and it was entirely due to this work that the extension was needed. Decision deferred to the next sitting.
On Monday 3rd March 1882 it was heard that Seven houses had applied for a licence to open at five o'clock in the morning. The reason given that the night workers at the new docks needed refreshment at the end of their shift and the day workers wanted `purl' before their day's labours.
The Mayor and Magistrates concluded to refuse all applications.

Publican Alfred Drake and ostler John Irwin were charged Monday 4th September 1882 of having used a lurcher on Roydon Common, on 18th August, for the purposes of searching for game, without a licence. Case dismissed since it was not proved that the dog was after game.

Listed 1883 as the SIDNEY SMITH.

On Monday 29th February 1904, Joseph Barker said that he had held a music licence since 1892 and sought renewal.
He had never had any trouble and had a nice music room  and ladies were not permitted.
The Chief-constable said that on the previous Saturday night there were about fourteen persons in the room and by about nine o'clock only five or six.
Sergeant Rayner said that the licence was not much used in the house and there was no music when he visited on the Saturday night. There were other music licenses in the vicinity.
Licence refused.

Dock extension added to licence after 1957.

Closed 11th November 1974 according to Watney Mann records.

Reopened as the RETREAT.

 

  Memories collected by Chris Holderness of Rig-a-Jig-Jig for the East Anglian Traditional Musical Trust.
The CH numbers refer to Chris's Archive on eatmt.org
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Tilden Smith                 (CH B7-2-17a)

There was a BBC recording made here in July 1955 by John Seymour and Francis Dillon of singers George 'Bussle' Smith, Charlie Fysh, Tom Benefer and Bob Chase.